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13 March 2008

According to the Cherokee Nation of Mexico (an English-speaking people with “English” names) the Cherokee were originally a Central American people (or immigrants to the Americas), driven north by the Olmecs. Their homelands were the contemporary U.S. states of North Carolina and Georgia. Under pressure from the United States, Cherokee first began their emigration to Mexico in 1820. In 1822, Cherokee were granted the right of settlement in Texas and Coahuila. Threatened by Anglo settlement, many Texas Cherokee moved south of the Rio Grande/del Bravo after Texas gained independence, and even more after Texas was annexed by the United States.

The most famous Cherokee in history to come and live in the freedom of Coahuila, Mexico was Sequoyah. This world famous educator is the only person in human history to develop a written system of syllables, which enabled all Cherokees to be able to write their language proficiently after only two months of study. For this work of genius, the great Sequoyah was featured in every U.S. newspaper and most major world publications.

He was an U.S. Army veteran known, honored and loved in his time by the red and white man throughout the United States. To this day, U.S. national parks and giant redwood trees bear his name. For his achievements, he was given a house and a yearly monetary pension for the rest of his life in the military-controlled Indian territory, yet he loved and valued freedom so much that he urged all Cherokees to live as a free people in Coahuila, Mexico. Indeed, earlier (in 1836), Chief John Ross had been denied permission by the U.S. Secretary of War to be allowed to sell the Cherokee lands and move the entire tribe to Mexico. Much later, in 1895, the Western Cherokees would consider a vote to move to Mexico to whence Sequoyah had moved in 1842.

The Cherokee Nation, led by Chief Charles Jahtlohi Rogers M.D., was officially recognized by the Mexican Republic in 1992, and the State of Coahuila in 2001.

Although immigrants, of a sort, another indigenous Latin American community is also finally being recognized. This really has little to do with Mexico, though you’ll notice “indigenous” doesn’t always refer to “race” in Latin America:

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  1. Mike Swanton permalink
    16 March 2008 12:13 am

    “…the Cherokee were originally a Central American people (or immigrants to the Americas), driven north by the Olmecs.”

    Linguistically, the Cherokee language is Iroquoian; that it, it is related to languages spoken in the northeast of North America. Cherokee is not recognized as one of the many indigenous languages of Mexico by the Instituto Nacional de Lenguas Indígenas (http://www.inali.gob.mx/catalogo2007/).

    A doubt…Might Chief Charles Jahtlohi Rogers M.D. (http://www.cherokeediscovery.com/chief.html) be the same as Dr. Charles L. Rogers, the “Doctor of Hope” (http://www.doctorofhope.com.mx/)? Or a “quack” (http://w3.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/115/ripoff0115260.htm)?

    I’ve got my doubts about the claims of Central American origin too, but — of all people to find out in the west Texas desert — I was talking with a friend of mine who lives here and is a Tahitian and scholar of Polynesian culture. We were talking about (hey, Alpine is a very small town, and it beats talking about the weather!) the problems of writing about traditional cultures, where origin myths may not have verifiable evidence — or may contradict what we can verify. Anyway, for all we know, the Cherokee adopted an Iroquoian language after moving to the Appalachians. Charles Rogers’ medical qualifications I know nothing about. But he does use the title, “M.D.” and he is the recognized Chief of this particular group.

  2. 30 March 2008 2:25 pm

    There is a page started about the Cherokee Nation of Mexico on the “Politica en Mexico” wiki. Links to this article and others. People are welcome to contribute to this page and others.

    I recently returned from visiting a small Mixtec village in Oaxaca, and since have been working on posting to this wiki, inspired by the works of the APPO and the Zapatistas.

    See: http://www.wiki.pemex.org/index.php?title=Cherokee_Nation_of_Mexico

  3. 30 March 2008 2:40 pm

    The Doctor of Hope website is registered in the name of:
    St. Joseph Medical Ctrmx
    in Austin, Texas, Estados Unidos de Am?rica

    The billing department is registered as being in Germany:
    Zweibruecken, Rheinland Pfalz, Alemania

    The website is hosted by:

    http://www.superbhosting.net/

    Superb Internet Corporation
    Suite 1400 – 700 West Pender St
    Vancouver, BC, V6C 1G8, Canada
    Tel: 1-604-638-2525

    It would be interesting to do some research about this outfit.

  4. 30 March 2008 3:07 pm

    Also see:

    http://www.cherokeediscovery.com/cherokeemedicine.html

    Which is the one page I found online which confirms the identities of Doctor Charles L. Rogers and Chief Charles Jahtlohi Rogers as being the same person. Not that there is anything wrong with this, but it is Very Interesting.

  5. Sierra Ebersole permalink
    28 April 2008 3:05 am

    April 28, 2007 @ 2:06 a.m.

    I have looked at Chief Charles Jahtlohi Rogers massive website several times, but have been unable to find a single identifying “Contact Us” e-mail, address or phone number other than the 877-943-4673 – that links to the Medical/Healing Center.

    Is there any other way to contact the Cherokees of Mexico? They look legitimate, but I don’t understand all the work that was put into this site and then not have a way to interact with them.

  6. Amy Reed permalink
    11 April 2009 12:59 pm

    Sorry to be commenting on this so late in the game – but has anyone been able to find contact details for a representative of the Cherokee of Mexico? I also looked at their webpage, and could not find a way to get in touch. My email address is amyjota@hotmail.com. http://amyjota.wordpress.com

  7. Angela Layton permalink
    20 November 2009 1:00 pm

    I have been studying my Cherokee lineage and have found many of the same problems as some have stated here. I am wanting to register with the Cherokee of Mexico for some time now. My last name apears on the website for the Cherokee of Mexico. My family are from Texas as early as the 1800’s and I am having trouble finding genealogy for registeration.
    Any help would be greatly apreciated!

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