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3 July 2012

UPDATE as of 9:15 PM (Mazatlan Time) 3-July

Someone connected (or claiming to be connected) with “Anonymous” hacked into the PREP database, and found data that makes it certainly look like the numbers reported publicly were not the same numbers as the official vote count.  What’s a few million votes either way, huh?

I know there’s a pithy quote attributed to somebody about this kind of thing somewhere… Oh… I remember:  “It’s not the people who vote, but the people who count the votes ” attributed to Josef Stalin.


On the other hand, it could very well be a fake.  While my copy came from an unknown website, Charles II at Mercury Rising, found the same post on a site dedicated to “exposing” Masonic conspiracies and such, which doesn’t lend credibility to the source. Charles raises sensible doubts about the data, but the fact that material like this is floating around, and being considered possible, is not a sign of an electorate that has faith in the process: 

5 Comments leave one →
  1. 3 July 2012 1:55 am

    They overlooked “Anonymous,” big mistake. Even the cartels learned that when they kidnapped one of their own. Sure Anonymous stop fucking with them, but cartels did release the guy.

  2. 3 July 2012 8:46 pm

    I’m unable to access the link. However, I found a similar screenshot at another site. Looking at the cached version, it looks to the site I found.

    There was no provenance, so it could easily have been doctored. Furthermore, CNN claimed to have listened in to an Anonymous discussion where tampering with the IFE computers was condemned.

    Do you have any reason to trust armakdeodelot?

    I do think that this points to the real danger that exists whether the allegation of vote rigging is confirmed or not: if people do not have confidence in elections, the government has no legitimacy. If things go ok, they might slide by. But if a state of crisis develops, a lack of legitimacy will bring a government down.

  3. 3 July 2012 9:28 pm

    Richard, Akismet swallowed my last comment, so I hope you will see this.

    According to this link, Anonymous has denied hacking the IFE. I have no special insight to know who is correct.

  4. 3 July 2012 10:21 pm

    I see the missing comment has arrived.

    Spambinning legitimate comments has the effect of blacklisting commenters. I’m not sure, but I suspect it has global effects on their ability to post anywhere on WordPress.

    There’s a much better way to deal with spam. Close off comments to threads automatically after, say, 30 days. Also, ban trackbacks, which are a common form of comment spam.

    We used to have 100-200 per day. We now have it down to a manageable 5-20. That many I can inspect and make sure I am not spambinning friends.

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