Tex-Mex is not Texas, not Mexico
That American and Mexican cultures are distinct and dissimilar is a view shared by both Mexicans and Americans. This view ignores the history of a large portion of the southern United States or interprets that history in a way that alienates the parts of the United States originally settled by Spain from the rest of the country. This view ignores the stark reality of life in the border area; communities along both sides of the border may have more in common with each other than with their respective neighbors in the interior. Harsh border policies that do not acknowledge the human and physical geography of the border region are unlikely to succeed.
Perhaps that’s stating to obvious to people who read this site, but in a nutshell, that’s a big reason the proposed border fence is regarded down here as totally nuts. I was looking for something else entirely, and ran across the quote on a legal scholarship blog. It’s from the abstract to an academic paper (M. Isabel Medina, At the Border: What Tres Mujeres Tell Us About Walls and Fences, Journal of Gender, Race & Justice, Vol. 10, p. 245, 2007), downloadable here.
Hola, México, ta-ta India
I wasn’t sure exactly why I’d bookmarked this item from Commercial Property News, but in a way, I’m glad I did:
May 23, 2007
By Barbra Murray, Contributing EditorSan Francisco’s AMB Property Corp. has made a major purchase in Guadalajara, Mexico. The industrial real estate company acquired a 1.2 million-square-foot industrial campus in a sale-leaseback deal with the sole occupant of the property, a leading global technology company.
I was wondering who was moving to Guadalajara, and the answer, in this morning’s International Herald Tribune, surprised me:
Tata Consultancy Service, India’s largest computer-services provider, plans to hire 5,000 workers in Mexico in the next five years as salaries climb in the company’s home market.
A software-development center in the Mexican city of Guadalajara that opened last week is starting with about 300 employees handling tasks done in India at the moment…
Wage costs at Indian software companies like Tata Consultancy have risen as global rivals including International Business Machines hire more engineers in India. A strengthening rupee is also crimping profit at these Indian companies, which get more than half of sales from the United States….
Salaries in Mexico are about 30 percent higher than in India, and about 40 percent to 50 percent lower than in the United States, where Tata Consultancy employs about 12,000 people, Rozman said. Having software programmers in Mexico allows Tata Consultancy to serve U.S. customers more quickly because they work in the same time zone, making travel to clients for support less time consuming, he said.
What’s going on? India isn’t the go-to place for engineers and geeks?
Apparently not. Michael Backman, writing for The Age (Melbourne Australia), questions whether our perception of India as teeming with engineers and scientists isn’t based on a false perception:
Indian Government figures estimate that India spends just $US406 ($A487.50) on higher education per student, but that China spends $US2728.
Seven Indian institutes of technology (IITs) sit at the apex of the education pyramid. Set up in the 1960s, they turn out world-class graduates. But even today, annual new enrolments in the IITs is limited to 1250 places at the first degree level and about the same number for post-graduate level.
These numbers are infinitesimal given India’s billion-plus population. What of the other 11 million or so students in about 18,000 other colleges and universities?
They face substantially inferior training that is reliant on passive note-taking and holds few opportunities for team work, creativity, debate and discussion.
Many of those in this second tier of education are capable of undertaking the studies at the IITs and miss out because so few places are on offer.
This two-tier system almost deliberately locks millions of Indian students into an inferior education system so the seven IITs can look good.
In other words, there’s only so many geeks to go around, and between the ones that emigrate (giving us the false perception that everyone from India is either a scientist or a motel owner), and Tata has just about exhausted the pool of available mid-level geeks. And, salaries aren’t the only factor in business services.
Tata is not looking for the top of the top of the engineering field, but that in India, they were able to recruit these people. It’s just that they can’t find enough engineers. With a billion people, India has a huge supply of top notch people, of course. But, the two-tiered system meant that there was a limited supply of more than qualified people, and a huge pool of less-than qualified people. With no “qualified” middle available. So… off to egalitarian Mexico.
In Mexico, the “everybody else” are more than adequate. Mexico has its elite engineering schools (ITAM is one of the best in the world), too, but it’s higher education has been more egalitarian and, Mexico is not a “developing country”, but a middle-class one. I’ve always said that if it wasn’t next door to an extremely rich country, you wouldn’t hear people calling it a “third world shithole” (mostly said by people who’ve never been in third-world shitholes, or even poorer parts of the United States).
If India was next to the United States, the rare Mexican you met would be a professor or businessman. And, you’d have Indian gardeners, farm workers and construction workers. And the construction worker might be an engineer .
And what’s the harm in a lot more jobs for Mexican engineers? Customer service and most programming jobs don’t require hiring the most brilliant people, just smart and educated ones. Which Mexico has. And, if the customer service guy on the end of the other line is named Carlos and not Ashok, do you really care? (One job I took on in Mexico City was helping with recruitment of English-speakers for a call-center. We did some research on this, and U.S.-based callers PREFER Carlos to Ashok … the telephone connections between the U.S. and Mexico are a lot less “overseas sounding” than from the U.S. to India, and folks in Iowa or Pennsylvania assume Carlos is somewhere they can fathom, like Florida or Texas).
A second thought about this. Buried in the New York Times article on the Senate Immigration Bill debate is this:
While senators struggled with the complex legislation, which calls for the biggest changes in immigration policy since 1986, executives from high-tech companies descended on Capitol Hill to express concerns.
Steven A. Ballmer, the chief executive of Microsoft, was among the businessmen pleading with Congress to increase the number of H-1B visas and green cards available to skilled foreign professionals. Ginny Terzano, a spokeswoman for Microsoft, said such visas were urgently needed to help meet “a talent crisis” in the industry.
Mexico has benefited from stupidity in U.S. immigration policy in the past. The Chinese in the 1880s and 90s, Spaniards and Jews in the 1930s and 40s, and the Arabs throughout the 20th century, may not have thought of Mexico as the land of golden opportunity, but it was a place that let them thrive — and the country was immensely better off for their contributions.
If the top-notch engineers and scientists can’t come to the U.S., and Microsoft isn’t going to send their executives to “some third world shithole” there is a fall-back position for them. What’s a few more gringos? Maybe one of them will be named Bill Gates.
The Mexican Opinion (from Lorena)
CIDE, Centro de Investigación y Docencia Económicas and COMEXI, Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales are institutions that provide Mexican research in the social sciences and support analytical, multi-disciplinary studies on Mexico’s global role, respectively. Their recent co-study was conducted in a survey format, Mexico and the World 2006: Public Opinion and Foreign Policy in Mexico, and presented at a conference hosted by the Chicago Council for Global Affairs.
The study provided a composite look at the way Mexican citizens view their nations’ concerns as well as their opinion on global matters; this survey commenced in 2004 and consisted of 1,499 “house-to house” interviews and 259 telephone interviews with foreign affair leaders. The importance of these surveys is two-fold: Provide knowledge to the public and policymakers alike with the interest in presenting an analytical perspective of international interests.
Background:
Mexico faces three obstacles in its foreign policies. Foremost, Mexico’s relationship with the United States was repressed by the September 11 attacks (this catastrophe focused US attention on the anti-terror campaign, souring, for example, any hope for immediate immigration reform along with delaying discussions on border control and drug-trafficking issues). The second obstacle concerns its economical affairs. The US created new partnerships with other Latin American countries, in particular, Central America, and China gained a stronghold in the US market as the second largest exporter, lessening Mexico’s market strategies. The third obstacle is the reformation of its relationship with both Northern and Southern countries; the fast-growing leftist, populist leaders of Latin American countries and the continual immigration distress in the US formulate a challenging foreign policy agenda for Mexico. Mexico’s foreign policy has been guided by different stances, all reactions to the pre-and-post NAFTA, North American Free Trade Agreement, dealings. Traditionally, Mexico behaved as an entirely nationalistic society by conserving a non-interventionist foreign policy. This defensive attitude changed with NAFTA as it converted to closer ties with the US, while maintaining a pacifist view and move towards promoting human rights and democracy as seen with the Fox administration.
The 2006 presidential election made for an interesting introspection of Mexican home front matters. The PRI party lost its centralizing, larger position (PRI maintained power for 71 years until 2000), while the PRD, center-left party, and the PAN, center-right has grown, producing a polarized system—the division of voters can be easily broken down into a northern states component, PAN, and a southern states component, PRD. Within this political division of states, the socioeconomic status of the country is also divided whereby the south and southeast are significantly poorer than the rest of the nation, and, according to government statistics, about fifty-percent of Mexicans live in poverty. It is interesting to point out that despite its high poverty levels, Mexico ranks as the fourteenth largest economy in the world based on Gross Domestic Product, GDP, standards.
Study: The Mexican Opinion
One would expect a gross division of Mexican opinion; after all, the political system is greatly polarized and Mexico’s fear of growing competition in the economy, together with the disparity in social and economical equalities, would make one think so. Surprisingly, the results of the survey show a favorable attitude of citizens’ views on Mexico and global relations.
Here are some highlights from the Study:
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Mexicans favor pragmatic foreign policy that allows economical stability and a safe homeland, and, most would favor an active foreign policy, i.e. helping improve human rights such as in Cuba
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Mexicans see Latin American countries more as friends than as partners, and believe they should pay attention to its relations with Latin American countries
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Mexicans have a more favorable attitude towards the US and Canada than any other country
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Mexicans believe that having the US as a neighbor is more advantageous than disadvantageous
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Mexicans are generally ambivalent (they also hold opposing) views on their admiration and trust for the US
As a closing thought:
Mexican citizens rank the following as concerns: drug-trafficking, international terrorism, global warming, and US immigration policy.
The entire report can be found at: http://mexicoyelmundo.cide.edu/
Touché!
My slightly snarky joke about San Antonio (I’d said you ALMOST heard as much English as in Cancún) elicited a thoughtful, on-target response — heck a whole Pocho Manifesto — from Jimmy at “kenburnshatesmexicans.com”.
Now, I realize this vato never spent time in my third period High School Spanish II class, where dudes named Hernandez and Garcia regularly butchered certain simple verb conjugations, but his assumption that every Brown person in the United States spoke Spanish and could read Octavio Paz was fundamentally wrong. I was reminded of this every time I struggled in speaking to my grandmother.
What actually does bind us all, I submit, is not a shared knowledge of the mother tongue but instead a reckoning with the language. Not all of Brown folks in the U.S. speak Spanish, especially as the generation number accumulates, and those that do speak Spanish do it at various levels of ease and ability.
“My soul frets in the shadow of his language,” the original Pocho James Joyce wrote. Having his raza’s OG mother tongue of Irish Gaelic subjugated by the conquering English, Joyce had the final laugh by mastering his oppressor’s language and writing Finnegan’s Wake, which to this day puzzles Oxford deans.
Of course, Jimmy is right. The loss of the “mother tongue” should be no surprise to anyone: no one expects Rudolf Giuliani or Nancy Pelosi to speak fluent Italian. Despite my family name, I have no interest in learning, or speaking, German. It’s of absolutely no use to me, though Spanglish and Spanish are. The wonder isn’t that Charlie Gonzales has trouble with the language of his distinguished forefathers… the wonder is that it’s held on at all. It’s to Chalie Gonzales’ credit that he’s going to the trouble of learning the family tongue. Too bad the same can’t be said for Anglo George W. Bush.
Most of this site’s original readers are folks interested in Mexican travel… and a lot of them make just the assumption Jimmy objects to. It’s funny, but I hear from travel snobs who complain that Mexicans speak too much English. The would be “off the tourist trail” traveler is always disappointed that they’ve gone to the trouble to learn Spanish, and then find themselves answered by some guy who spent a couple of years washing dishes in Chicago.
The Real Academia Español is still arguing (last I heard) on whether Spanglish is a dialect of Spanish, or one of English. Or its own language. I tend to think the latter. It has a grammar and literature of its own. And, there’s no rule that says a language can’t combine two wildly different roots — English throws Germanic and Romance languages together somehow). I once heard it said that “a dialect is a language without a country,” but then again, “Texas is a whole other country,” too.
Don’t know much about geography…
From Wonkette:
President Bush Discusses Comprehensive Immigration Reform in Glynco, Georgia.
FYI, Glynco, Georgia is here:

The crossing is set up to keep immigrant yard workers from the nearby Brunswick Country Club out of Glynco. As an added bonus, it also keeps Jews out of the country club.
Tejanos
In the Washington Post article I quoted below, San Antonio (Tx) Congressman Charlie Gonzalez was quoted on his own difficulties with the Spanish language.
He is the son of the late, legendary representative Henry Gonzalez, who was the son of Mexican immigrants who did not speak much English. Henry Gonzalez spoke beautiful Spanish, as well as English, according to his son.
“Dad was just horrified as my Spanish deteriorated,” Charlie Gonzalez says.
“People expect if your name is Gonzalez that you can speak Spanish. It’s always going to be a source of kidding.”
He can laugh about it. The voters in Gonzalez’s majority-Hispanic district in San Antonio understand. The Spanish of their grandchildren is disappearing, too. This is what happens. They’ve elected Gonzalez five times. “This is a shared experience,” the congressman says. “The degree of proficiency in Spanish varies from generation to generation.”
It’s been raining back in Charlie Gonzales’ home town. San Antonio is sometimes said to be the most Mexican city in the United States, and it is, though sometimes you hear almost as much English as you would in Cancún or San Miguel del Allende. In the Alamo City, it seems that Mexican immigrants (and their descendants) struggle mightily to maintain their Mexican-ness, one way or another…

Leo Garza, © Express-News.net
Leo Garza’s ‘Nacho Guarache’ embodies the humble everyman, serving as a foil for the events of the day. He was named ‘Nacho’ after a favorite elderly relative of Garza’s and ‘Guarache’ because Garza thought it would be fun to hear people struggle to pronounce the word.
Si, se puede… sorta, kinda
The Washington Post (registration required) on Congressional attempts to speak to America:
It is not yet 8 a.m. and four members of Congress are practicing the sound of the Spanish letter “g,” reciting words in a bashful chorus conducted by their tutor, who stands at an easel in the Cannon House Office Building.” . . . Gato, general, guerra, gigante . . . ”
The sharp Worcester brogue of Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), the soft Houston honey of Rep. Gene Green (D-Tex.) and the more unassuming accents of Reps. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) and Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) meet somewhere in Mexico, more or less.
” . . . Guitarra, gusto, bilingüe, Nicaragua . . . ”
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Classes for GOP members began a few years ago but petered out over time, according to a spokesman for Rep. Jerry Weller (R-Ill.), one of the organizers.
No amount of studying can prevent the occasional gaffe. Gingrich was a pioneer of bilingual communication as speaker of the House, but a news release his office issued for Cinco de Mayo in 1998 is still recalled with chuckles in the bilingual halls of power.
The release referred to Gingrich as “Hablador de la Casa” — but “hablador” doesn’t mean “speaker.” It means someone who talks too much, a big mouth.
Then there’s Romney’s fiery “¡Patria o muerte — venceremos!” in Miami. It happens to be a trademark line of Fidel Castro’s.
Quoting Castro to Cuban Americans? ¡Caramba!
Steve Gilliard, 1966-2007
Whatever one writes about in the Blogsphere, we owe a huge debt to Steve Gilliard, one of the pioneers and giants of turning what was originally intended as a format for personal diaries into a political and cultural forum. Gilliard, and others, realized that even those of us with very narrow-cast interests (like, say… Mexican culture and politics) can make a difference, even if, like Steve, their physical limitations kept them from being as active as they’d like.
This very limited interest site would never have started if it hadn’t been for the example of people like Steve, whose “news blog” was one of the first, and one of the best, sources of political reporting in the new media.
His associate, Jen, may or may not be keeping the site going, but for now, she has posted this:

It is with tremendous sadness that we must convey the news that Steve Gilliard, editor and publisher of The News Blog (www.thenewsblog.net), passed away early Saturday morning, June 2nd. He was 41.
To those who have come to trust The News Blog and its insightful, brash and unapologetic editorial tone, we have Steve to thank from the bottom of our hearts. Steve helped lead many discussions that mattered to all of us, and he tackled subjects and interest categories where others feared to tread.
We will post more information as it becomes available to us.
Please keep Steve’s friends and family in your thoughts and prayers.
Steve meant so much to us. We will miss him terribly.
Uzi does it
June 1, 2007
Associated Press
NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico — A Texas man was arrested when police found him carrying a submachine gun under his arm while he walked along a street in this border city, Nuevo Laredo police said Friday.
Steven Newman Ryan,
30, of Houston, tried to toss the Uzi and run when he spotted police before his arrest Thursday, police said in a news release.
Ryan faces charges of violating Mexico’s federal weapons law that sharply restricts possession of guns.
Police said Ryan had refused to say why he was carrying the gun.
Any guesses on this one?
I’d want to know how Steven Newman Ryan got across the border carrying an Uzi, but the more interesting question is why.
Is he:
b. an incompetent gun-runner?
c. Another Jordan Davidson (and what’s happened to that boy anyway?)?
d. A tourist who takes State Department Warnings way, way, too seriously?
e. A brain-addled Lou Dobbs-aholic?
f. El chingagrino’s” future girlfriend at el Centro de readapcion social?
Qui bono?
I wish I’d caught this before I started the post below. Linda Valdez, writing in the May 27, 2007 Arizona Republic, nails the whole “border fence – enforcement first” nonsense for what it is… another corporate boondoggle.
Illegal immigration is big money, and the rallying cry “Enforcement first!” will keep it that way.
Logic and reason say that, if you take away the jobs, the job seekers will stop crossing the border. But the jobs remain.
Equally logical would be an effort to create opportunity in Mexico. It is pure cultural chauvinism to assume that all Mexicans want to live in the United States. Most would prefer the social support, family connections and familiarity of the land where they were born.
So, billions spent in Mexico -through microloans, for example, to avoid feeding Mexico’s institutional corruption – would do more to stem illegal immigration than the biggest wall ever built.
Instead, we have the Secure Border Initiative, Homeland Security’s multiyear, multibillion-dollar program. Last year, Richard Skinner, inspector general for Homeland Security, put the price tag for electronic monitoring of the border at $30 billion. Physical barriers would cost an additional $7 billion, he said.
If you’ve ever had an estimate for a home-improvement project, you know those price tags are going to go up, up and up.
Our fearless leader, George Bush, invited military contractors such as Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and Boeing to bid on the creation of a “virtual fence” that would include unmanned aerial vehicles, ground surveillance motion-detection equipment and all sorts of other whiz-bang stuff.
Boeing Co. got a contract last September to begin a virtual fence in Arizona. Earlier this month, residents of the Arizona border town of Arivaca (population 1,500) packed public meetings to oppose the 98-foot towers on which Boeing will mount cameras and radar.
It will be “like living in a prison yard,” one resident told a reporter. Big Brother was also mentioned.
Earlier this month, Homeland Security called for bids on a $250 million contract to build a stretch of border fence near Laredo, Texas.
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According to congressional testimony last summer by Carlton Mann, chief inspector of the Office of Inspector General for Homeland Security, the Border Patrol is not what one would call zealous in ensuring what he called “contract accountability.”
Nor do things always work as planned. Mann said that more than 90 percent of the time ground sensors sent agents out on false alarms caused by things like local traffic, trains or wild animals – not illegal border crossers.
On the southern border, only 2 percent of sensor alerts resulted in apprehensions, he said. On the northern border (you get points if you remembered we have a northern border), sensors led to apprehensions less than 1 percent of the time.
So, this border stuff costs a lot, is unpopular with border residents and may not work. OK then. It is good enough for government work.
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There is money to be made pursuing the least logical approach to illegal immigration.
Which explains why this free-market-loving country continues to follow an approach that has failed for decades to stem illegal immigration.
Those who really want to see this problem fixed should stop fixating on militarizing the border and start thinking of ways to use that money to empower the poor in Latin America.
Like letting poor people send their money home, where they’ll buy American goods and services. But… NOOOOO… that’s too much like what Free Trade is supposed to be.
Feds: “Resistance is futile”
I guess the Constitution ends somewhere north of the actual border:
McALLEN, Texas (AP)_ The chief of the U.S. Border Patrol told angry mayors, businessmen and environmentalists Friday the federal government would have the final say on the exact location of a 700-mile (1,126-kilometer) fence along the Mexico border.
Local officials say the proposed fence will cut farmers off from water, harm wildlife, ruin recreational areas and send a hostile message to Mexico, Texas’ biggest trading partner.
Chief David Aguilar said he wanted to work with members of the Texas Border Coalition, but if they came to an impasse, the federal government would have the final say.
This is hardly just a theoretical problem down along the Rio Grande:
“CouldBeTrue” writes on the latest border fence stupidity at South Texas Chisme:
The more you get into it, the dicier this fence business gets. Please remember that crony Republicans do not care about solving real problems and crony Republicans don’t care what effect their actions have. Mess is inevitable.
Like some farmers along the Rio Grande, Edward Mathers is counting on a series of gates to open the fence that will cut across his land.
But others warn that the federal government is likely to restrict access to keys or remote control devices that would open such gates.“I’m not happy, but I can live with the inconvenience,” said Mathers, who farms about 1,000 acres along the river.
U.S. Border Patrol agents told him that 50-foot-long gates would open along a 10-foot-high fence to let him tend to land on each side of the fence, Mathers said.
But in San Pedro, farmer Fermin Leal said he was told farmers will have to contact Border Patrol agents to open the fence’s remote-controlled gates.
Logistics is not a Republican forte.
Presently, there is no legal crossing point between Del Rio and Presidio, six hours apart by road. We’re contrarians down here in the Big Bend, maybe, but as Meghan Wilde writes in Marfa’s Big Bend Sentinel we’re looking to OPEN the border a little bit:
…a local group is working to reopen La Linda international bridge east of Big Bend National Park. For more than six years, a coalition of Brewster County and Coahuila residents and non-profits has been trying to restore the single-lane La Linda bridge, which was barricaded in 1997. The coalition sees the crossing as the lynchpin for a cross-border tourism economy between Big Bend National Park and adjacent protected natural areas in Mexico’s Sierra del Carmen.
I still say it has to do with us along the border being mostly “Ds” and the feds answering to the “R’s”… and playing to folks who assume they’re not gonna be inconvenienced when the local Homeland Security guy starts demanding THEIR papers…





